Zaishen "Victory is Mine" Trappers - Guild Wars Forums

mikbal · Mar 16, 2007, 05:50 AM // 05:50

I cant beat those with my Ele
can you give any hints?

Haggard · Mar 16, 2007, 08:13 AM // 08:13

Can't reccomend much for an ele since they are naturally weak against rangers, but for your teammates a Barrage ranger or Mesmer with Cry of Frustration and/or Web of Disruption could help.

nightrunner · Mar 16, 2007, 08:41 AM // 08:41

Bring a monk with Restore Condition.

bilateralrope · Mar 16, 2007, 09:58 AM // 09:58

Get yourself a team of rangers loaded up with traps and serpents quickness. Place down QZ and EW, then bunch up and spam your traps on one spot. They can't trap you until they first step in your traps, and by the time they reach you your traps should make quite a large boom.

dr1zz one · Mar 16, 2007, 04:32 PM // 16:32

Use deep freeze with 1 or 2 points in water. Maybe give your monk extinguish.
If you have nightfall, play E/D and use earth enchants to boost your armor with mystic regeneration for health and Sandstorm for damage.

strcpy · Mar 16, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58

I do not PvP, only play the AI for a few unlocks for my heroes - that build is a PITA for a four man team.

My normal team beats them, just takes far too long (pretty much same build I use when playing the story line). Assuming you have heroes I use an Ele, a Dervish, a Monk, and a Paragon. I'll only list "essential" skills

The Ele is a searing flames build - glyph of lesser energy, searing flames, glowing gaze, and mark of rodgort.

The Dervish is a scythe mastery build, though in this case an Avatar of Melandru would work well, it just doesn't so much on the others. I make sure I have a Fiery scythe to trigger Mark of Rodgort, mystic regen to counter the degen, and armor of sanctity because most are burining. The rest of your skills can be almost anything - I usually have reapers sweep, victorious sweep, Heart of Fury, and one more enchant.

The monk is a standard Restore Conditions Prot monk - easiest to look them up on Guildwiki.

The paragon is mostly centered around "they are on fire" and the "blazing" skills. Lots of damage reduction from the fire and lots of burning. I fill any extra slots up with Motivation linked heals - though pretty much any thing will do. Plus the Paragon has access to "cautery signet" which removes many conditions in one go.

If you are sure you can kill them and not have any of yours die in the process "frozen soil" will shorten the fight considerably. Since much of their stuff is a stance a d/w with Wild Blow is quite nice (that or the GftE dervish is what I alomst always run), and the build blows through the rest of the AI possibilities.

This runs best (for me) with the human member being either the Dervish or the Ele - since you are an ele there you go

Remember, if you have an open slot it is pretty easy to make a PvP character to do this, especially useful if you are a long ways away from something you need on your "real" character since PvP characters use unlocks just like the heroes do.

Agyar · Mar 17, 2007, 03:24 AM // 03:24

A trapper, two SF eles and a Wanderlust spirit spammer can basically beat any in the Zaishen elite right through to the faction cap from there. Just trap the gate and fill it with the long lasting spirits (union, pain etc.) and put up frozen soil in the corner and flag the eles back a little inside the starting pen so they don't stop the NPCs moving across the traps.

Mar 16, 2007, 05:50 AM // 05:50	#1
mikbal Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2007	Zaishen "Victory is Mine" Trappers I cant beat those with my Ele can you give any hints?

Mar 16, 2007, 08:13 AM // 08:13	#2
Haggard Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Urmston, Manchester, UK Guild: Greener Pastures [DVDF] Profession: W/Rt	Can't reccomend much for an ele since they are naturally weak against rangers, but for your teammates a Barrage ranger or Mesmer with Cry of Frustration and/or Web of Disruption could help.

Mar 16, 2007, 08:41 AM // 08:41	#3
nightrunner Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Francisco Profession: W/Mo	Bring a monk with Restore Condition.

Mar 16, 2007, 09:58 AM // 09:58	#4
bilateralrope Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Zealand Guild: Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)	Get yourself a team of rangers loaded up with traps and serpents quickness. Place down QZ and EW, then bunch up and spam your traps on one spot. They can't trap you until they first step in your traps, and by the time they reach you your traps should make quite a large boom.

Mar 16, 2007, 04:32 PM // 16:32	#5
dr1zz one Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: R/	Use deep freeze with 1 or 2 points in water. Maybe give your monk extinguish. If you have nightfall, play E/D and use earth enchants to boost your armor with mystic regeneration for health and Sandstorm for damage.

Mar 16, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58	#6
strcpy Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: One of Many [ONE]	I do not PvP, only play the AI for a few unlocks for my heroes - that build is a PITA for a four man team. My normal team beats them, just takes far too long (pretty much same build I use when playing the story line). Assuming you have heroes I use an Ele, a Dervish, a Monk, and a Paragon. I'll only list "essential" skills The Ele is a searing flames build - glyph of lesser energy, searing flames, glowing gaze, and mark of rodgort. The Dervish is a scythe mastery build, though in this case an Avatar of Melandru would work well, it just doesn't so much on the others. I make sure I have a Fiery scythe to trigger Mark of Rodgort, mystic regen to counter the degen, and armor of sanctity because most are burining. The rest of your skills can be almost anything - I usually have reapers sweep, victorious sweep, Heart of Fury, and one more enchant. The monk is a standard Restore Conditions Prot monk - easiest to look them up on Guildwiki. The paragon is mostly centered around "they are on fire" and the "blazing" skills. Lots of damage reduction from the fire and lots of burning. I fill any extra slots up with Motivation linked heals - though pretty much any thing will do. Plus the Paragon has access to "cautery signet" which removes many conditions in one go. If you are sure you can kill them and not have any of yours die in the process "frozen soil" will shorten the fight considerably. Since much of their stuff is a stance a d/w with Wild Blow is quite nice (that or the GftE dervish is what I alomst always run), and the build blows through the rest of the AI possibilities. This runs best (for me) with the human member being either the Dervish or the Ele - since you are an ele there you go Remember, if you have an open slot it is pretty easy to make a PvP character to do this, especially useful if you are a long ways away from something you need on your "real" character since PvP characters use unlocks just like the heroes do.

Mar 17, 2007, 03:24 AM // 03:24	#7
Agyar Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: AUSSIE TROLLING CREW - CAPSLOCK CONSULTANT Guild: [Dong] Profession: Mo/	A trapper, two SF eles and a Wanderlust spirit spammer can basically beat any in the Zaishen elite right through to the faction cap from there. Just trap the gate and fill it with the long lasting spirits (union, pain etc.) and put up frozen soil in the corner and flag the eles back a little inside the starting pen so they don't stop the NPCs moving across the traps.